Wine and...Movies - THE MOOR (2024)

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THE MOOR is a new indie horror film, released 7/1/2024 in the UK but still to come for the rest of the world - keep an eye out for it!

The film had its World premiere in the "First Blood" strand of FrightFest, a platform dedicated to debut feature films. It quickly gained recognition as one of the standout entries in its category. Total Film hono(u)red the film with FrightFest's Best Scare award and nominated director Cronin for Best Director.

This British folk horror film is based on true stories about The Moor Murders in the countryside during the 60's. Sophia La Porta stars as Claire, who is approached by the father of her murdered childhood friend to help investigate the haunted moor which he believes to be his long-missing son's final resting place.

THE WINES
DAVE'S WINE: (Match)
2019 Triacca Casa La Gatta Valtellina Superiore
Alpine Nebbiolo! Or "Chiavennasca" as those in the northern Lombardy region call it. High acidity + high tannins, bright red fruits with florals and truffle, an absolutely unique expression of Nebbiolo.

DALLAS' WINE: (Contrast)
Domaine Trapet Beblenheim "BBHM" Riesling 2020
Rich lime, peach, and pear notes, floral hints and a slightly petrol aroma. The palate is equally impressive, with good acidity balancing a full body.

Chapters

• 0:17 Weather Reports - There is a Wine That Pairs With That
• 1:27 It's My Birfday!
• 4:00 Chris Cronin's The Moor
• 7:00 Housekeeping, shit I forgot to do it earlier
• 10:00 The Impressive Opening Sequence of The Moor
• 22:11 Debating the Importance of Laying a Body to Rest
• 28:24 Performances in The Moor
• 33:35 The Eerie Atmosphere of North York Moors
• 42:23 Final Thoughts: Failed Podcasters
• 43:21 Dave's Wine Pairing: Matching the Tone
• 50:55 Dallas' Wine Pairing: Contrasting the Impact
• 59:22 Sing me Happy Birthday Mother F***ers

Transcript

00;00;00;00 - 00;00;26;04
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He's Dave and I'm down. We have opinions on just about it. Sometimes they're on point, and sometimes they go down the back of the glass of one. Join us. This is the one podcast. Welcome back, everyone to wine and the show where we pair wine with movies, TV, music, books, comics. And maybe one day we'll pair it with.

00;00;26;06 - 00;00;49;10
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I don't know. Weather reports. You know, is it sunny? Cloudy. Is it rainy? windy. Gale force winds. Flash floods. Record heat waves. Which is what's going on in the country right now as we record this. Whatever the weather, however you feel about the weather, there is a wine, the pears. With that. And don't be looking. You know, at your phone or desktop or the little app on your home screen or lock's lock screen.

00;00;49;11 - 00;01;09;25
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Obviously nothing pairs with spot checking the weather. No, you need to find an actual weather report. I did say weather reports is what we're going to pair of wines with. So find someone who's actually bothering to be performative about it, giving you the weather bright eyed and bushy tailed first thing in the ungodly wee hours of the morning.

00;01;09;25 - 00;01;36;22
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But Dave, you might say, if I'm watching a weather report like on a network station or a weather person delivering it to me, that means I'm watching it first thing in the morning. Those exact hours you just called ungodly. And why should I really be drinking wine at such hours? Yes. Today, folks, it is my birthday. So, the deal with Dallas was he was going to sing me Happy Birthday on the podcast.

00;01;36;23 - 00;02;13;20
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That was the deal because he's making me record on my birthday. So Dallas, take it away. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Frankie. Dave Baxter, I just gave away your whole name. Happy birthday to you. All right, well, we're going to autocorrect to that after the fact, but, Yeah, yeah. Happy birthday, old man.

00;02;13;23 - 00;02;30;02
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yeah. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, I am young, I am so young. As we like to say on this show, me and Dallas both. We are so young. We are still in our late 20s, early 30s. Depending on when you ask us and how honest we're being. Neither is the honest answer, but it's how honest we're being.

00;02;30;02 - 00;02;57;02
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How far away from the actual truth we are. yeah. If you're actually young, you never have to claim you're young. So we are claiming that we are. You're right. Let's try that way forever. All right, so it is my birthday today and it is the day before Independence Day. So now you know my birthday, right? and that's going to be important because we are here today to talk about a film that hasn't yet been released here in the States, only over in its home country, the UK.

00;02;57;04 - 00;03;15;18
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So take a look for this movie. I'm going to name it in just a minute. But first off, special shout out to Blake of Blake's Buzz, another podcast and YouTube show. You should absolutely check out if you love interviews with creators, because Blake is one of the most passionate and frankly insightful of all the interviewers out there right now.

00;03;15;21 - 00;03;34;19
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That's me, Blake. Blake sent us this movie screener in advance, and we heartily thank him for it. We are talking about. Oh, and before I, before I actually get to the movie, Blake's buzzed. I'm going to put a link down below in the description to his YouTube channel, so you can go check it out. He predominantly, interviews comic book creators.

00;03;34;19 - 00;03;54;03
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We came from our legacy show, from the comic book world, so we knew Blake very well. But he is also really spearheading and running the Geek Network website, which covers everything these days. It covers video games, covers music, it covers movies, it covers comics, covers, all that stuff. So his show is expanding there as well. Just like our show expanded some comics to include all these things.

00;03;54;09 - 00;04;15;29
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So go take a look at Blake's Buzz link down below in the description of this episode. But today, what movie are we talking about? We are here to talk about Chris Cronin's feature film debut, the horror movie The More. Oh yeah, and that is, the more like the landscape of a more not like mellow is, the more. Right?

00;04;16;00 - 00;04;37;16
Unknown
Right. So, I've always wondered about that. etymology between the two. Like, why? Why? One is a foggy is a foggy, boggy marshland plain like hilly. I'm not even sure what the definition of a more is, to be honest, because I don't live in the UK. I've I've never really bothered to look into this. I think it's, like what exactly?

00;04;37;16 - 00;04;55;08
Unknown
I think the root is the morass or the swamp. I'm pretty sure it's a land. Okay. It is like swamp land. Like bog land type of thing. Okay, okay. Cool. So like, Florida is our more right kind of a thing. Yeah, we'll go with that. Yeah. I got a guy. Yeah, yeah. I feel like there has to the peat bogs ours.

00;04;55;13 - 00;05;15;11
Unknown
Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Now there you go. There you go. So we are here to talk about Chris Cronin's feature film debut. The more a little backstory here, the film had its world premiere in the First Blood strand of Fright Fest in 2023. A platform dedicated to debut feature films. It quickly gained recognition as one of the standout entries in its category.

00;05;15;14 - 00;05;42;04
Unknown
Total film honored the film with Fright Fests Best Scare award and nominated director Cronin for Best Director. Now, Chris Cronin did direct many short films leading up to this, but this is his first feature film. the British folk horror film is based on true stories about murders in the countryside. Sophia Le Porta stars as Claire, who is approached by the father of her murdered childhood friend to help investigate the haunted Moor.

00;05;42;04 - 00;06;06;14
Unknown
He believes it's his son's final resting place. Cronin is on record as saying, quote, my aim with this story was to create an original horror film set in my home country of Yorkshire. Instead of delving into the fictional murders themselves, I focused on the aftermath and how something so terrible affects lives and relationships. What happens when so much grief and guilt are left unresolved?

00;06;06;17 - 00;06;32;19
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The cast includes David Edward Robertson, Elizabeth Dormer, Philips, Mark Peachey, Vicky Hackett and Bernard Hill. One of his very last roles before passing away this past May. Bernard Hill. For those who are unaware, Bernard has been acting since 1975, going all the way back to the movie Gandhi. And he was, for Americans, we would probably know him best as he was the captain on James Cameron's Titanic.

00;06;32;22 - 00;06;49;03
Unknown
and King Theo, then in the Lord of the rings series, trilogy of films by Peter Jackson, amongst so many, so many, many, many other roles of notes. and this is one of his final roles. And he is fantastic as the police captain here or a retired police captain. And I'm going to say the word captain.

00;06;49;03 - 00;07;08;09
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I don't know if he was actually a police captain, per se, but a police, high ranking policeman. He was that authority. He was an authority of morality. Yes, yes, yes. so, a little bit of housekeeping before we keep talking about the film, if you like what you hear today, of course. Please make sure to hit that follow or subscribe button.

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00;08;03;23 - 00;08;21;28
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00;08;21;28 - 00;08;42;23
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00;08;42;25 - 00;09;05;28
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Tom work. Sorry. Was okay. Tom work is one of the OG guys in the wine world, and he did a article this week about the continuing evolution of the wine media and shouted out 16! that people and, and, periodicals and podcasts and whatnot to follow that are all sort of the new blood of the wine media.

00;09;05;28 - 00;09;23;14
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00;09;23;14 - 00;09;45;09
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Thank you so much, Tom. We appreciate it hugely. and check out that Substack once again, wine and.substack.com. That's the best place to find us. You can also send us a text. There's a little clickable link down on the description of this episode that says, send us a text. If you're on your phone or mobile device that has texting functions, go ahead and click that link.

00;09;45;09 - 00;10;09;00
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It opens up your text app, and you can send us a message directly via that. It just comes into our buzzsprout inbox. Doesn't show us your phone number. Never fear. just sends us a quick and easy message. You can send it that way as well. Okay, to start us off, the more is, as I already mentioned, directed by Chris Cronin, who had done numerous shorts before this.

00;10;09;03 - 00;10;45;28
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but the more is his feature debut. The cinematographer of this film is Chris's brother, Sean Cronin. It is written by Paul Thomas and produced by Chris Cronin, Paul Thomas. And I'm going to screw up this name, but possible praise or props or praises or I'm not sure. Prakash. So good luck with that. if you think I'm terrible at this, which I am terrible at this, but Chris Cronin, Paul Thomas and Pablo Press, it opens in the 1960s in northern England, where a young Claire convinces her childhood friend Danny to distract a shopkeeper so she can shoplift some sweets for the two of them.

00;10;46;01 - 00;11;07;16
Unknown
The opening credits. so in this scene alone. And we're going to start here with our discussion, because I love this opening scene. I think this opening scene is it's very different than the rest of the film. And, in interviews with the director, he basically said they shot this last, so they shot the whole rest of the film.

00;11;07;22 - 00;11;29;05
Unknown
They had even edited the entire film before shooting this opening sequence. Now it was always the plan to go shoot this opening sequence. It was just at that when it was more summertime and the weather was different, and they had their kid cast like this just happened at another time. So they shot it. And this is probably and this is no shade on the rest of the film.

00;11;29;05 - 00;11;51;11
Unknown
This is quite a stellar, horror debut, all told. But this is my favorite part of the film. I was so impressed by this opening. It does so many cool little things that this opens. It's on a street. It's in maybe a single take it, maybe it's a fake single take. I'm not sure. Yeah, it's a it's definitely a fudge single take.

00;11;51;11 - 00;12;09;23
Unknown
Maybe a fudge single take. Okay. I'm pretty sure it's a fudge single take, but they do it in a way where it's like a single take that there's. The camera does not cut away. You are following these kids as they hatch this plan to shoplift some candy. or as the British like to call them sweets. I will never that that I kind of hate that word.

00;12;09;26 - 00;12;30;06
Unknown
I don't know why, but I'm always like sweets and like, dad's, I don't know, I don't know, I like candy is my word. but we'll go with sweets. UK film. Fine. And they call it sweets. but she tells Danny and, I thought they were brother sister, but no, it's this is her childhood friend, and I think she's a little older than hearing, so a little more authoritative.

00;12;30;06 - 00;12;59;05
Unknown
Right. and so she's like, here's the plan. You go in and you say you're looking for your dad, and I'm going to. And then that way we'll distract the shopkeeper. And afterwards, you know, don't worry. Just say like, oh, never mind, and just walk out. So he goes to distract the shopkeeper. they're on the street. He goes in, she waits on the street, and they're in this, like, sort of alleyway where you keep seeing the background of this alleyway, which is enshrouded in darkness.

00;12;59;07 - 00;13;23;01
Unknown
And there's kind of a suggestion. There's something back there. And I love this because it's. Is there or isn't there? And you're never 100% sure. And it just sort of keeps you in suspense here. Then she does. She leaves that. She gives Danny a minute, then goes inside. When she enters, he's talking to the shopkeeper and she goes over and you can hear the conversation between Danny and the shopkeeper in the distance.

00;13;23;05 - 00;13;47;22
Unknown
She's palming all the all the candies, like getting it in her pockets and whatnot, putting it in the bag. And, and then when she thinks it's time to go, she's like, okay, here we go. Goes back to the main door, stumbles over something, bumps into something, or the shopkeeper and Danny both pause and look at her, and it's like just this moment of, like, frozen terror of possibly getting caught, right?

00;13;47;24 - 00;14;07;03
Unknown
And then she freaked out, and she runs out the front door. And when she runs out the front door for this flash of a second, you see this faceless adult man just standing there, and you don't see his head. It's like neck. It's like, the opposite of head and shoulders, right? It's it's the neck down right that you see and you don't see the face.

00;14;07;10 - 00;14;27;23
Unknown
And it's so brief and in this way that she, like, kind of reacts it he's there also kind of doesn't just runs away and goes back to the alleyway and you're like, wait, was there just some guy standing there? Why? That was weird. And then she looks back to the main entrance. That guy's not there. And Danny never emerges.

00;14;27;26 - 00;14;46;09
Unknown
He never comes out. She waits there for a couple minutes. We keep seeing the alleyway and like, something's going to emerge from the alleyway, and we're not sure if that's going to happen. She finally goes back into the shop, goes to the shopkeeper, and is like, where's the boy who was looking for his dad? And the guy was like, oh yeah, no worries.

00;14;46;09 - 00;15;29;01
Unknown
His dad came and picked him up. And that's where we end the opening. Yeah. So, just cinematically speaking, what this first sequence does is a couple of things. And I do think there's some references that, that these guys have in this film that I'm sure, that are all modern filmmakers, not all modern filmmakers are sort of, the overt, I will say the whole, first sequence reminds me of the establishing sequences of, Fritz Lang's work, particularly, if you guys don't know, Fritz Lang's M, it's one of my absolute favorite films of all time.

00;15;29;01 - 00;15;51;03
Unknown
It's fantastic. It's disturbing for Peter Lorre. It's just fantastic. but, M stands for murder and murder or murder. Yeah. Yeah. so it's it's just called M just a great, great film. But, there is that long sort of tracking shot in the beginning. So, you know, first they've got two kids, right? We know there's danger.

00;15;51;10 - 00;16;12;26
Unknown
We know there's danger afoot when you've got two kids and a dark and we know it's a horror movie and we know it's a horror movie. But you got that dark alley. There's, they do a great job with the lighting and the detail in the rear of the alley because, in this sort of foreground, in the background, there is what seems to be light coming from a doorway or something.

00;16;12;28 - 00;16;33;02
Unknown
and it's sort of a case by this sort of hall of darkness. So, they do a great job of, pulling focus over her shoulder when she comes back out. and it does a great job of of giving you that kind of heebie jeebies, that kind of, weird, unsettling thing. they also do some auditory things.

00;16;33;02 - 00;16;55;01
Unknown
They're really interesting with the bell. and a lot of these old shops, particularly in rural towns in the UK, they have actual bells on the door. And, when she enters, we hear the bell ringing, right. every time, you know, they drop that seed in the back of your mind. So every time you hear the bell, you you you make the, the connection.

00;16;55;03 - 00;17;22;02
Unknown
And, that comes back later on, as well. But, this first sequence does the heavy lifting for this film. we understand that this little kid, would not be in this scenario, this situation, without her. by the time we go black on this first sequence, we already know. Yeah, we already know that the guilt is already on her shoulders.

00;17;22;04 - 00;17;45;12
Unknown
and so we move in after that to, fast forwarding 25 years, I believe. Yeah, 25 years. and, you know, our character is sort of just not in the doldrums, but she is definitely dealing with a lull in her life, which has a lot to do with the fallout over the past few decades from this kid.

00;17;45;15 - 00;18;08;02
Unknown
So that's where we pick up. After the first scene, I would say to the guys to, to Chris, Chris Cronin is that. Yeah, that's yes, Chris Brown, and the writers here, that first sequence, I want to say, so there's probably going to be some of the best work you're ever going to do. come on now, I'm just saying, I know they want to grow.

00;18;08;02 - 00;18;25;28
Unknown
I know they're going to evolve, are going to be amazing, amazing things. But I will say for a first strike, that's kind of it's kind of a masterful I take it as a challenge. guys, Cronin's out there, Chris, and trust me, God damn it. Exactly. It's like, that's a gantlet thrown. Like, do better than this opening.

00;18;25;28 - 00;18;45;17
Unknown
We dare you, you know, because it's so good. It's good. Now, they did say, in an interview with Chris Cronin. So it says that that opening sequence, it's set in the summer, it's got a child cast. It's one location, a different type of shooting style. So I didn't need as much crew. And yeah, we just treated it as a short film, the beginning, middle and end.

00;18;45;17 - 00;19;12;27
Unknown
Perfect. So it's great that it paid off exactly. I feel like it informs the film quite a lot. That immediacy that that opening creates. It's not just a memory. You get to live it for a minute right? Unquote. Right, right. And let that be a lesson to any filmmakers out there. If you have these sort of establishing sequences, don't just treat them as sort of benchmarks that you need to cross off, maybe treat them as actual narratives that have a beginning, a middle, and an end that have their right.

00;19;12;28 - 00;19;38;19
Unknown
Don't. It's not just information, their own background. Everything needs to be informed. And when you do that, you get these little sequences that do and technically can stand alone as a short film. Because I tell you right now, as they entered this in a short film, competition, it would have gone amazingly well. Yes. This like because even the plot of this story, like, it's so like, oh, yeah, his dad came in, picked him up and just dangling, like, leaving it dangling there.

00;19;38;25 - 00;19;58;27
Unknown
That is such a short story in a horror anthology. Absolutely like a prose short story where you just end on that terror of like, and Danny will never be seen again, right? And because of this thing and you mentioned the bell, and I forgot to mention this to one of the brilliant things. So that bell, when people come in and out of the door, when Claire.

00;19;58;27 - 00;20;20;10
Unknown
Who's the name of the girl. Yeah. When she comes out of the store and she runs to and wins and bumps into the adult man that's just standing there outside the door, right? And then runs away, and we see him for such a quick the way this is filmed is so and edited is so interesting because it is almost like a blink and you miss it, that that guy standing there intentionally.

00;20;20;14 - 00;20;40;13
Unknown
Yeah. Which I really appreciated. And then she runs back to the alleyway and we follow her. We don't follow the guy. She runs back to the alleyway and while she's in there, like catching her breath and deciding what to do, we do hear the bell again. Yeah, yeah, because he's leaving Danny and we don't know. So she hears the bell and she's nervous at first.

00;20;40;13 - 00;20;57;19
Unknown
She's like, oh shit, is that the shopkeeper coming out? And she gives it a second and then turns to look around the corner, and there's nobody there because they've left. Right? Right. Yeah. We don't know that yet. Then she plucks up the courage, goes inside, and that's when the shopkeeper says, no, Danny, like his dad came and took him.

00;20;57;19 - 00;21;20;12
Unknown
And I love I love what they do with the, with that character, the shopkeeper who looks at her and says, oh, no worries, he's dead. He left with his daddy. Yeah, that's of his dead. Yeah. Whatever the quote is. what's amazing is the casting on that shopkeeper, because that is, he's a dark figure. He has dark features.

00;21;20;19 - 00;21;46;03
Unknown
He's got this curious, like, almost sinister kind of disposition in this face. And so it does just it's a vital kind of like punctuation on that moment. And I I'm telling you, as a, I would still enter listen to the short story competitions on its own because, guys, you did did some great work there. If you're listening, I think, yeah, I think they've done enough, like this guy has done, like at least half a dozen short films.

00;21;46;04 - 00;22;00;14
Unknown
I would have to go back and watch to watch his, his cat and his shorts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think at this point he's like, I've done shorts. I'm good. I just want to do a feature, man. I'm like, I don't need the advice of doing yet another short. Thanks anyway. but shout out to that opening.

00;22;00;16 - 00;22;26;26
Unknown
Yeah, but keep doing it. or keep keep doing them and inserting them into your feet. Right. Like this where it's like you find a perfect way to meld into it. So the way the story goes from here is the opening. So once, Danny becomes missing and we end on Claire realizing what's just happened, the opening credits then show us a montage of missing children across the area, a man who is eventually.

00;22;26;26 - 00;22;48;29
Unknown
And this is all in like, this montage where the opening credits play of, like, newspaper article clippings and, you know, think things of that shtick where, then a man who was arrested for them eventually. But most of the bodies remain missing, lost in the vast expanse of the moor. And that area. And the culprit isn't bothering to show the authorities where they are.

00;22;49;02 - 00;23;12;29
Unknown
so from there, we enter the present day, where there's a lot of unfinished emotional business with these murders because the bodies have not been found. even though they're pretty sure they know who did it, he's confessed to at least some of them. these murders are loosely based on the, quote unquote, Moors murders of the 60s, which were actually carried out by a couple.

00;23;12;29 - 00;23;35;05
Unknown
And Brady and Myra Hindley over the course of a few years. There's some great dots out there, by the way, guys that have chronicled that and the updates subsequently over the decades. it's a terrifying story. and also in terms of the opening credits to this film, it is kind of done in that cinema verité. We'll go to cinema verité kind of style.

00;23;35;05 - 00;24;01;23
Unknown
Where is that docu, sort of realistic style? and it definitely sort of does give you kind of the inertia and momentum of, what it would feel like living 25 years later in a town where these murders kind of happen. So, yeah. Right. And going back to the director is basically stated a little bit about how, you know, back in the 60s, because it was the 60s, this was happening.

00;24;01;23 - 00;24;18;08
Unknown
And when the Moors murders, actually happened as well. And just what a different time period it was, where it's like, yeah. Because even when the director was growing up in the 90s, he's like, it was just a different time. Like, you know, your parents would just send you out to go hang. Yeah. If you wanted candy, they'd be like, yeah, just go get candy.

00;24;18;09 - 00;24;34;09
Unknown
Come back in a few hours. Like, no one gave a shit. And we all grew up that way, or most of us. And like, I said, we were old. We're old as like as we mentioned, I thought we were young five minutes ago. That's right, that's right. We were quote unquote young is what I meant to say. We're totally young and we totally grew up.

00;24;34;11 - 00;24;51;21
Unknown
Are you girls where. Yes. Your parents were like, fuck off, leave us alone for a few hours. And you just went and did anything. And the director basically said, looking back on his childhood, he's like, it. It was so easy to just take a kid. Yeah, like there was no one stopping you. And even the town, even if they knew you like this was a small northern England town.

00;24;51;21 - 00;25;09;16
Unknown
But even the shopkeeper didn't know who Danny's father was, right? He was like. Because when this other stranger came, he's like, oh yeah, his dad showed up and took him. Probably because they went to a shop where they're like, they don't know who we are. Like, you know, that's why we're trying to shop. Let's try it. Right. So you find that one that's like the one you don't go to personally as kids.

00;25;09;16 - 00;25;29;07
Unknown
So they don't know which people in the village might be your parents. You could be from out of town. They don't know. but anyway, it was a very different time. And so the movie picks up in the 90s, which is when the our main story takes place in the quote unquote present, which is actually the 90s. So no cell phones, right?

00;25;29;10 - 00;25;56;12
Unknown
there's, it's a different it's still a different time period in that regard. they're trying to so in the present day, Claire as an adult has befriended Danny's father, Bill. and Bill is hellbent on finding Danny's body still, he's just he has it consumed, and rightfully so. He is obsessed and consumed rightfully, with answering the question.

00;25;56;14 - 00;26;23;05
Unknown
Yeah, I mean, I you say rightfully so. This is something like I do understand it because it's again, that unfinished emotional quality to it. But, there's a part of me that this is where it's like the body isn't important anymore. Like it's just if you really think he's out there alive, that's one thing. But if you do not suspect they're out there alive, the body just isn't necessary.

00;26;23;08 - 00;26;46;16
Unknown
Well, you know, it's like, I think I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. But when it enters the territory of, like, a parental connection, right there is and you got to deal with sort of cultural kind of connectivity too, right? There are cultures where the body laying it to rest does not punctuate the, the sort of, you know, the the statement, the grander statement of that.

00;26;46;19 - 00;27;14;23
Unknown
I know I'm gonna argue that culture has got to get over that shit, though, because it's not it's not healthy. It's not healthy. It's not going anywhere. Oh, I know, it's like, are you still gonna cry? I'm still gonna argue that that is whether or not it is specifically a religious custom in any given culture. Like there is that element of faith and religiosity to it, of course, which is pure like, you know, superstition where it's like you have to do you have to lay the body to rest in this specific way with these specific things.

00;27;14;23 - 00;27;35;21
Unknown
And it's like, and is 90% of the rest of the world really doing it wrong, and all these bodies are not being laid to rest correctly. Like, come on guys, come on. Yeah. Like at some point we all have to just accept that. Like what happens to the body after death is not that particularly important. It I, I feel like it causes so much of the emotional damage.

00;27;35;21 - 00;27;49;23
Unknown
Is that getting hung up on the concept of laying the body to rest. So anyway, it's my argument. I totally get it. I know it's a thing I'm just going to argue that it's a bad, And we we should we're we're all going to be the better for getting over that shit. What do you want us to do?

00;27;49;23 - 00;28;08;03
Unknown
Do just leave the bodies out on the street and walk by them all day? Come on. No, I mean, that's the key. That's right there. That's like. No, there are cultures that do that and have been doing it for thousands of years. They actively lay the bodies out and allow the vultures to clean them for over the course of months, which is entertaining.

00;28;08;03 - 00;28;36;14
Unknown
Strong word. If you are a small enough population that works. But but you have to be a again, public health crisis if you're a big enough population, right? With like hundreds of deaths a day, it's like, well, that ain't happening, right? That would be, it would be a stinky time anyway. death beside, you know, it he is a consumed and obsessed with finding some sort of punctuation to his own torment, and I don't because it isn't rational.

00;28;36;14 - 00;29;08;29
Unknown
Who then? The father's name is wrong. Bill. Bill. There we go. Yeah, yeah, bill. And, shout out to this actor, too, because he was. I mentioned him once. Let me go find his name real quick again. it is David Edward Robertson. So David Edward Robertson starred in one of Chris Cronin's short films when, many years before and by the time they were casting this film, Chris realized that, David would actually have the years on him now to play Bill.

00;29;09;00 - 00;29;31;16
Unknown
Yeah. So they went they brought him in to audition because he was not he's not like a big name, but he is an apparently, Sofia, the part who played Claire, and then David Edward, who plays Bill, they had very different acting methodologies, like, David Edward Robertson was a very method actor. Like, he's one of those guys who would like to go to see lives in the world.

00;29;31;22 - 00;29;52;09
Unknown
Like still on the actor. Yeah, right. And, and would wake up still in that headspace. And Sofia was the kind of actress who could turn it on and off. Yeah. Like, you know, it's like and cameras like and action and turn it on and cut and turn it off and be able to keep going. And so it's I think I, there's no, there's no stories of like that.

00;29;52;09 - 00;30;12;08
Unknown
They rubbed each other the wrong way because of that or anything like that. But just like the different acting methodologies and how people get into those head spaces. But I will say, you know, you watch David Edward Robertson in the role of Bill, and he is one of the most ponderous presences I've seen on a in film in a long time.

00;30;12;08 - 00;30;45;07
Unknown
Like he is a lump of grief. Yeah, and yeah. And sadly, it's also not, it's not the, it's not I wouldn't say rage. It's a subdued, boiling, simmering, omnipresent, it it's it's a dissonance. Nothing is settled in this person's spirit. And he does such a great job of communicating that even through the silent moments when he's just looking at other characters in the scene, he does.

00;30;45;08 - 00;31;10;15
Unknown
And you're right. Ponders is a great word because you can tell that everything about him is unsettled and constantly considering and thinking. And yeah, there are some moments of where the rage definitely does show. well, I'm going to hold on. Let me, let me I did ponderous rage. Rage was finishing ponderous. Oh okay. So the idea. So the rage is I mean, believe me, I'm going to say that rage is there every second of the film.

00;31;10;19 - 00;31;39;29
Unknown
It's not, erupting. Right. But it is like it's the. And I think you're not even sure how much it's there because he plays it. So he's a little distant from all the other characters. Sometimes he can connect to them, but it's almost as the movie goes on. The cool part about this character and the way it's played and the way it's written, is you start to realize that he's only connecting to other people as long as he's getting what he needs.

00;31;40;01 - 00;32;07;26
Unknown
Right. and what you need is information. Yes. What he needs is. Yes, the connection to the one moment someone stops giving him what he needs or starts to question. Maybe we don't need this, right? That's where you start to realize it's actually rage, right? Right. There's something else going on here, in him. So. And whereas Claire is just she wants finality, but she's even a little torn on how much she needs it.

00;32;07;28 - 00;32;27;12
Unknown
Right. And I think she wants it, but she's not sure. Like she's not. How far does she need to go? Right. She wants to flee the she wants to flee the situation in general, which is why she sort of fled her apartment, which is why she just wants distance, which is right, you know, and she's been wanting this since from the beginning.

00;32;27;12 - 00;32;52;06
Unknown
And she makes a statement later on that when things got really hairy, at the, at the beginning, her family left town, and she's been essentially doing that, ever since. And you're right, with, that Bill's character, his connectivity and connection to everyone in this world is his son is, you know, some attempt at connecting the dots that all, you know, move back to his son.

00;32;52;09 - 00;33;19;05
Unknown
And when, you know, like I said, when he does get some bit of, satisfaction to some curiosity, that rage comes out or some other emotion that redirects and, it is it is a very well-written and I would say a probably even, better acted, because he does such a wonderful job of that. It's intense.

00;33;19;05 - 00;33;41;04
Unknown
Well, you see. Right. It's intense. While you're not sure exactly how to decipher it, right, you have to watch the movie to really see where it goes and where he eventually ends up. And just to make people aware, because we haven't really said what the meat of this movie actually is, and the meat of this movie is actually exploring the moor itself.

00;33;41;06 - 00;34;12;03
Unknown
And Bill hires a diviner, you know, just like a water diviner. But they can do a bot like a soul or body divination where it's like, give us, you know, an article that it was personal to the the soul or person you're trying to find. They can divine up to a point on the map. And he we first meet this older guy, and when I say older, like like, I don't know, 30s, you know, type of a thing like or maybe 40s, but he's not that old, middle aged.

00;34;12;05 - 00;34;39;04
Unknown
adult. And then we meet his daughter, who's an even more powerful diviner than he is. and it's like a father daughter team that is, interestingly, a sort of flip between Sophia and Bill, who aren't father daughter. But in that one, the of course, the younger woman is the more reasonable, more okay, but there's a limit. Let's not go past X point.

00;34;39;05 - 00;35;02;07
Unknown
You know of what we're doing here. whereas Bill is just like, no, anything, everything. This is all I, this is all I actually give a shit about. And he keeps revealing, playing his hand, when they're on the moor and any he'll abandon people at the drop of a hat if he thinks like he sees signs that like some, there's something that he needs to see or might be where his son is, like.

00;35;02;07 - 00;35;26;26
Unknown
I mean, he just like, outright he does not give a shit about you. And he proves that over and over again, even though when all is said and done, he comes back and he seems kind of reasonable again. But the father daughter diviner team, the daughter is the intense one who's like all about because of how much she feels, how much she, how much power she has in her divination versus the father, who's very because of how powerful his daughter's gift is.

00;35;26;29 - 00;35;47;20
Unknown
And apparently things have gone a little too far and a little wrong in the past. That way, he's very like, okay, but we're not going this far because I need to protect her. I need to protect how deep she gets into this and how close to these horrible events and probably the suffering souls, right, that she's, diving into.

00;35;47;27 - 00;36;19;17
Unknown
So you get this nice little flip between the two pairs of people. And then there is a scout, this lady who, like, knows the moors, like the back of her hand and knows how to navigate them. And she's leading the whole team through this. So the majority of the movie, it takes place on the moors. And, the director basically said that when it came to shooting on the moors, all everything you see is the natural weather of the moors at the time, which is a film phenomenal.

00;36;19;20 - 00;36;43;13
Unknown
It is one of their starring character in this film. It is by far, yes, top billing in this film, you would think. Right. You would think they had to CGI this fog. Yeah. Into the thing or like, you know, it was a soundstage and maybe they, you know, they maybe they punched it up a bit, but you can tell that, most of this is just due to the natural climate and.

00;36;43;14 - 00;36;59;22
Unknown
Right, right. And here's the quote. He says, in an interview, he says, oh, man, you just rely on the natural weather of the North, don't you? That's the thing. If you want a cloudy looking movie, you just do that. Yeah. I think when people think of the North, they do think of it as a bit gray and grim.

00;36;59;29 - 00;37;17;11
Unknown
But that that area on a good day is actually a beautiful looking place. On a bad day, it looks like a good location for a horror. Yeah. So we really just tied it into our schedules. If it was a good day, we had a certain scene we could shoot, we shoot interiors, then we go out and shoot all the exteriors later.

00;37;17;12 - 00;37;40;16
Unknown
It wasn't about trying to make the North look grim, it was just that the story was grim. So then he also says, quote, on the more it's the air pressure, the weather can change quite rapidly. It actually is a genuine thing. The scenes where we had the heavy mist, we'd be shooting another scene and 15 minutes in the mist would come in and we'd be like, fuck, switch it up and we'd switch it up and start shooting the the misty scene.

00;37;40;22 - 00;37;58;15
Unknown
So it was really just being receptive to the elements. We were not a big budget film, so we couldn't take big lights on the location, so a lot of it was natural lighting outside every location was a real environment in the north, so the authenticity that you experienced, living or being around there came through. I think. And yes, I agree with that.

00;37;58;18 - 00;38;29;05
Unknown
And a quick sort of just some quick, data on, the North York Moors itself. apparently the region is dated back 12,000 years. For our archeological are our archeological sites and features 700 of them designated as scheduled monuments. They have carbon dated the hell out of this place over the years. lots of the great history that you've heard about and, the sort of, Iron Age, center around this place.

00;38;29;05 - 00;38;58;21
Unknown
It is a storied, storied place. And more importantly, is some of the mythos and mythology that comes out of this place. Right? If you've heard of, things like the Hobgoblin, the idea notion of the hobgoblin comes from this region. You've got the, Roseberry Topping, which is sort of, a witch's hat. you've got Gorham, your leg of this glacial lake, that you, that's been referenced in lots of literature over the years.

00;38;58;23 - 00;39;27;01
Unknown
It's just a storied, storied, creepy place. And I think the creepiest factor, of of about this place is the idea of the bog. for those of you who don't know, the bog is essentially just sort of a muddy, sort of, pool of, desiccated animal and plant life that can easily take you under. You've heard about, let's see.

00;39;27;03 - 00;39;59;23
Unknown
And a lot of the other sort of bog men that have been found over the years and their bodies have been dated to thousands of years old, because when you're encased in bog, it basically preserves you. yeah. And, so it's just a storied, storied and creepy. Yeah. There is, yes, there is a, a a archeological find called the Lindow Man and Dorman, which was found, in peat marsh as a preserved bog body that was deposited.

00;39;59;24 - 00;40;34;27
Unknown
It was a body that was deposited face down in the bog sometime between two B.C. and 119 A.D., and was just preserved by being in the bog all that time. It was found in the 18th 1984, and was considered one of the, one of the most significant archeological discoveries of the 1980s. and so imagine if you, grew up in this place, let's say 4 or 500, even 100 years ago, a place that has this sort of storied, background of finding these perfectly preserved bodies.

00;40;35;04 - 00;41;06;22
Unknown
It would naturally be a creepy place that would develop its own mythos and its own lore. And it would be. Never mind, never mind that the terrain itself is just it's 500, almost 600mi², and you easily get lost in this place. People just disappeared in this place many times. So, good on these guys for allowing, this locale, this terrain to be the kind of anchor, of the creep factor in this film.

00;41;06;25 - 00;41;29;12
Unknown
great job. Yes. And the one other thing that's in this film, it wouldn't be a proper British, horror supernatural film without Standing stones. Oh, yeah, of some kind. So there are the 12 apostles. it's based on the actual 12 apostles or the standing stones of elk. that is in this area. they're not the 12 apostles.

00;41;29;12 - 00;41;52;22
Unknown
They kind of make up their own stones. and give it these little designs on the stones that were, I'm pretty sure, made up for the movie. and but there are, there are things happening in the moor and, in this area that there are it is a very slow burn movie. But at the same time, there are some wonderfully creep tastic scenes, and then it does culminate.

00;41;52;25 - 00;42;12;23
Unknown
there is a bit of a big ending, but we're no spoilers. This is going to be spoiler free, so go watch the film. It is fantastic. and then the other thing I'll mention, well, there's really no where it goes. Oh, that's really, Yeah, we'll get that. We'll get there. Oh, man. Yeah, it it takes a turn.

00;42;12;23 - 00;42;32;16
Unknown
Well, it takes a turn. We won't get there because we won't get there. But we're gonna, we'll get there. But we won't go there. Okay. but go check this out. The more it should be. The last I checked online. It's being released July 7th here in the States on streaming. so go take a look if that gets pushed.

00;42;32;16 - 00;42;55;04
Unknown
Well, it'll still be very soon, so just keep an eye out for it. It's already, available in the UK. so go take a look there. And if you're living in the UK and the one other thing I'll note is our main character, Claire's, her character is a failed podcaster. Big feels for you, Claire. A big, empathetic field, right there.

00;42;55;06 - 00;43;21;04
Unknown
It's almost like Blake was saying, knock knock, guys. Yeah, they're, So now she's kind of given up on her podcasting, so she's kind of getting back into it as the story goes. But, you know, we are failed podcasters, but not not quite because we have many years of failure. Come, we are committed to our failure. So that failure is going to keep on coming into your, wherever you are consuming this podcast.

00;43;21;07 - 00;43;43;01
Unknown
Never fear, never fear. but anyways, The More by Chris Cronin, his feature film debut. Check it out now. Wine pairings. What do we pair with a movie like this? you go for Dallas. Do you want to kick us out? You want my birthday? It's your birthday, baby. First. All right, so, you know, this is this is a movie.

00;43;43;01 - 00;44;14;07
Unknown
I did struggle a little bit with this one. I was, I will say, full disclosure, 100% I. It was. Yeah, I went through, I think four different, parents. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, on the one hand you could, so this movie, it is intense in its way. It's dark in its way. It is slow burn, but still has moments of authentic horror and an ending of authentic, extreme horror in its way.

00;44;14;09 - 00;44;31;28
Unknown
it it it walks a lot of fine lines, which is what makes it difficult, right? Where it's like, yes, it is one thing, but not again, I think especially when you're dealing with low budget horror, that can be one of the things is your you can't just go all in on certain things because you don't have the budget to do it.

00;44;32;00 - 00;44;51;03
Unknown
If I don't have time. Yeah, right. So you find creative ways to get there and you walk, you dance a lot of fine lines that are effective, but then you're like, ooh, but it's not just blankety blank. So I can't just go like, yes, it's dark and brooding, right? But is it as a whole a dark and brooding piece?

00;44;51;05 - 00;45;16;17
Unknown
Because it's also like it has this ethereal quality where and this very, the darkness is there, but the characters are not giving into it, and you're mostly just looking at them, walking around real life in a daze and trying to figure out what they want to do about this. And then the supernatural starts entering in. But in very light ways and very deft touches.

00;45;16;21 - 00;45;42;12
Unknown
But then. Then every once in a while, you'll just get the scene where it's like super fucking natural. Like it's like, now you're in it, now you're there and you're like, whoa, I almost I was almost not expecting this film to go there. you know, I found something that probably walked my own fine line on this, which is I found I did go for a read on this one, but I did not go dark and brooding.

00;45;42;15 - 00;46;10;27
Unknown
I decided against that. but I did go with something that was harsh. I went with something that I'm like, yeah, this is gonna this is it's very high acidity. It's very high tannins. so it's got this nice balance of high acidity and like, exceptionally high acidity and exceptionally high tannins is one of the biggest mind fucks when you're drinking.

00;46;11;03 - 00;46;30;23
Unknown
Yeah. Because it is such a tannins. Dry your mouth out or give you the the feeling of your mouth being like chalky and dry and you can't swallow and acidity makes your mouth water like a motherfucker. So it's like sucking on a lemon wedge while sucking well at the same time, sucking on something where you can barely swallow past it.

00;46;31;00 - 00;46;48;28
Unknown
So the saliva just keeps coming and coming and coming, but you feel like you can't swallow it because your mouth feels so chalky. so it's just one of those things like, am I dry or am I wet? And you don't know? And at all times you're both. I know this sounds so sexual, but it's not,

00;46;49;01 - 00;47;18;22
Unknown
So I went with this wine. That is. It's a grape that is very well known for its high acidity and high tannins, but it's from a place that is unexpected. this is this is a Nebbiolo, but it is a Nebbiolo from, the extreme northern Lombardy region. It is essentially an alpine Nebbiolo. so this is the I'll show Dallas here a picture because he can see it.

00;47;18;25 - 00;47;46;18
Unknown
But this is the tree, aka Castle legato 2019 Vow to Lena, Superior and Volta. Lena is an area in northern Lombardy that is right on that border between, Italy and the Alpines. And it comes through. This is basically I've got a little bit of a write up here for it, but this is, it's as alpine as you can get.

00;47;46;20 - 00;48;15;25
Unknown
A steep sloped valley following a river mere miles from Italy's border with Switzerland. It feels like something out of a musical. Okay, one particular musical, especially if you visit it during the summer. the vineyards are impressive, vertiginous and terraced. Some are so steep that they can only be reached by funicular. And if modern highways had existed long ago, it's likely that no one would have bothered planting grapes in such a challenging environment.

00;48;15;29 - 00;48;36;10
Unknown
But for centuries it's been a vital supply of red wines for the Swiss and locals in the northern Lombardy region. if we're thankful that's the case, we are thankful that's the case because Veltliner is home to an expression of Nebbiolo, which they call Chaya. Vanessa. Giovanni Luca is the name. they give the grape there, even though that is Nebbiolo.

00;48;36;10 - 00;48;58;01
Unknown
Because of course, wine can never be straight forward. so even though you're going to be like Giovanni. I've never had that before. Yes. You have. it it's just Nebbiolo, which is what Barolo are, which is what, you know, Nebbiolo, Lunga, Nebbiolo de Alba. And this one is going to be probably the closest of those is Nebbiolo Ranga, where it's a little bit easier to drink young.

00;48;58;05 - 00;49;18;15
Unknown
But again, that acidity is just unlike the other, any of the others. It's it's through the roof, so it stays lighter. It's like even redder and more acidic, more sprightly than normally you'll get with the Nebbiolo, but still has that harshness, locked in there and, so this one, this exact bottle of the 2019 castle.

00;49;18;15 - 00;49;45;19
Unknown
The gatta from Tre Akka. it's it's harvested from three of the most coveted districts in the growing region Sicily. Mellow and Inferno. That's the name. and it's an ethereal, beautifully aromatic red that combines bright, juicy acidity with a bundle of red fruit highlighted by cranberries and red cherries. Overlay that with the classic Nebbiolo floral tones, hints of truffle and orange zest, and you get a bottle made to charm.

00;49;45;22 - 00;50;16;26
Unknown
But also be ready for those tannins because man man, man man. So I felt like this stayed that lightness, that sort of like arm's reach from the ponderous ness of most of the movie, where you're on the outside of these characters, you know, there's a lot going on inside of them, but the movie keeps it kind of this very, still this very emotionally inert, almost where it's just quiet, like the emotion is so tamped down that you're just like, these poor, these poor people.

00;50;16;28 - 00;50;41;25
Unknown
but as the movie goes, it does. We do go places with it, don't worry. But it's slow burn, so it's got the. But it's so harsh. Like everything in this movie is harsh. Nothing is nice. Nothing is gentle. Everything is is feels in ways that are challenging. So I went with this wine because it just had that balance of the, ethereal and the sprightly, but then had that harsh element to it.

00;50;41;27 - 00;51;11;16
Unknown
And, so yeah. Johnny aka Castle Legato 2019 Volta. Linas is the region superior, which is the key of an Oscar or Nebbiolo grape. That's my parents house, which got them all right. Yeah, I like that. Actually. I could see a nebula going pretty well with that experience. for those of you don't know, I mean, when it comes to pairings, I'm the guy who, I I'm I'm either, drinking the wine as a character in the world.

00;51;11;19 - 00;51;39;02
Unknown
or as I'm watching this passively in my own home. and, for me, it's a character in the world. I just imagined myself because I, you know, I do like this sort of cinema verité kind of docu drama style. I get hints, there are moments when it veers into sort of that, found footage territory because of one of the techniques they use with one of the characters.

00;51;39;04 - 00;52;09;16
Unknown
and it it's very effective at taking you in and out of the first person. And, this is a perfect world to do that in, because this terrain, first of all, it seems so wet, and I hate being wet. seems so craggy. And, I also hate the smell of wet earth. It makes my skin crawl.

00;52;09;19 - 00;52;54;09
Unknown
Particularly, like, from deciduous forest, old world forest, where there's peat and bog. It. Just the smell just makes my skin crawl. I don't know what it is. And so I imagined myself as a character in this world. And I would need something that contrasted this sort of bleakness. the darkness, the heaviness, the sadness, the bitterness that is just kind of riveting through not only this sort of terrain, but, the people, because there is a lot of bitterness that's just moving in and out of these characters.

00;52;54;12 - 00;53;24;02
Unknown
but I also want to, sort of compliment the petroleum kind of minerality of this world because it is a very old world, you know, the terrain is very old, and it's sort of, it's it's mineral forward. you can smell the rocky terrain, you can smell the the fog and, the, the precipitation, and you can smell the peat on the air.

00;53;24;05 - 00;53;48;18
Unknown
and that kind of petrolatum. petroleum kind of base. So I definitely wasn't going to pick a red. there are a couple of reds I could probably pick that were kind of buoyant and light. but I decided to go with a white, which is technically away. and the white I chose, is known.

00;53;48;20 - 00;54;18;06
Unknown
The grape is known for its presentation, its presenting of, the minerality. there's a really acute minerality that generally comes through, this particular grape from this particular region. and, the region is Alsace. Of course. It's the, it's, I'm sure Dave knows what it is already. and, the Alsace, region is in northern France.

00;54;18;06 - 00;54;59;13
Unknown
It is in the shadow of the Polish mountains, east of the Rhine. this particular, grape and varietals is, a sort of wine lovers staple. it often is, is budget friendly. it, pairs well with, pork and, various meats, fish. It's it's a pretty versatile, wine. And in terms of the notes, you get those earthy notes which mimic the kind of terrain of this world.

00;54;59;16 - 00;55;23;24
Unknown
you also get some sort of. There's, a really crisp kind of thing that comes through usually, citrus green apple, pear. and I liken that to, Claire's character. Claire is looking for the light. She really is looking for the light. which is why she's constantly trying to distance herself from the darkness. The darkness of the past.

00;55;23;24 - 00;55;51;22
Unknown
The darkness of the reality of the past. all of it. She really is actively looking for the light. and, you know, I definitely want to honor that in the pairing. So I chose, like I said, the Alsatian, it is a Riesling from the pet, domaine, out of, Alsace, France. It is, say the name one more time to that.

00;55;51;22 - 00;56;07;07
Unknown
You see it there? Oh, that's right, we're doing audio. And, if the light keeps blowing it out. So that's what I like. So it really is that we're doing the audio sometimes. I know, I know, I know, well, and a lot of the times I can like later when I come to look at the video, I can't read the label.

00;56;07;07 - 00;56;32;04
Unknown
So I'm like, no, I need you to say it really clearly is, okay, trap it. That, Germain trap it. it is there a BBH? it is, like I said, a Riesling, which is a biodynamic Riesling. you get the petrol. Is that that petrolatum thing is very intense. And I chose that for a reason because generally that's not something I enjoy.

00;56;32;06 - 00;57;04;17
Unknown
but because of this particular pairing, that kind of mineral, nose to this world. Because I can just sense it being in this place. I know it smells of wet. it smells of sadness and depression and, all the things that, I'm not a real fan of being around. So, I wanted to find a wine that did two things that grounded you in that, voguish ness, for lack of a better term.

00;57;04;17 - 00;57;33;08
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That sadness, that bitterness, that, earthy thing and also kind of, teased you with the light. And we get that in the kind of honeysuckle that comes through and the lemon and the citrus, and, yeah. it's, it's it's a lovely little Riesling. I will say that. Nice. Yeah. All right. And, I always say in my head, I have no idea which is the correct way, but I always say Alsace rather than Alsace.

00;57;33;08 - 00;57;57;14
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So however you listeners say it now go look for either Alsace or Alsace. a l s a c e, right is how you pronounce the region or how you spell the region. Okay, perfect. so that is what we're talking about, actually. Yeah. You're right. I'll say, sir. Alsace. Right. It's Alsace. It is also. Okay. Okay. I always just assume I'm pronouncing it wrong because I usually,

00;57;57;17 - 00;58;19;25
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Because I, I keep thinking of Alsatian, and that's the that's my, Yeah, I always truncate, right, right. Because it's not Alsatian. So it's Alsace, but Alsatian I o because again, nothing it's language. It's like it's never going to be simple. You got to be a native to know what the fuck you're doing. Oh, yeah, I feel I feel like I feel like we almost do that just to be dicks when we're like, the native speakers.

00;58;19;26 - 00;58;37;24
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Oh, so it's it's like no one else can figure it out. And they're sort of like, oh, we know it's your second language or third. Oh, yeah. Fourth, or you barely speak it at all. You're a tourist. Yeah. All right. Any who. Absolutely. So once again everybody Chris Cronin's The more it is out now in the UK.

00;58;37;24 - 00;59;04;29
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It should be out in the States by the time you're hearing this. But if not, keep a look at it for some time, likely in July if it's not out. already. And that is this feature film debut. Really great character driven horror film. that inspired by true events but not based on them. just very, very loosely inspired by, but all about the more and how and all shot on an actual more with the actual weather of the more.

00;59;04;29 - 00;59;21;05
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So that is something to see at the very, if nothing else, even if you're not that into horror like it's a slow burner too, so you don't have to deal with too much horror during this one. but it's a very effective whole. I can't I can't wait to see what else he's going to do, after this one.

00;59;21;05 - 00;59;43;20
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But go check it out. And, once again, this has been wine, and, I am Dave with me has been Dallas, and it has been my birthday. So saying you sing Happy birthday to me to as you listen to this belated happy birthday. do it all in a circle. record yourself. Send it to me as a text message,

00;59;43;22 - 01;00;04;14
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Yeah. Do you like a voice message kind of thing? Send that, upload it to your Google Drive, send it to one of your asking a lot of people to upload the Google Drive that. Allow me. Happy birthday, motherfuckers. Sing me happy birthday, Google drive. All right. And and for everyone in the States, it'll also be belated, but happy Independence Day because that is tomorrow.

01;00;04;14 - 01;00;25;15
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As we are recording this Happy Independence Day, it'll be a little belated for our Canadian listeners, but Happy Canada Day, which was July 1st. so this is just a big time for North America. What can I say? My birthday in the in Canada is a day. Yeah, the big three is is the trick. It's the trinity of important things that happen this week.

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all right, folks, this has been one. And we will be back next week with another one. An entertainment series for your entertainment. Ciao for now, guys.

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Find the.

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Of.

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Up!

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And by the way, you're going to hear this week's episode drop. I took your new sound. You're the only person talking in the opening now because you recorded it as though you were the only person talking your spiel. Yeah, you're you're like, he's Dave, I'm Dallas, I'm not gonna lie. And I was like, oh, okay. But you know what?

01;01;22;09 - 01;01;45;17
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You have such a sultry, smooth jazz voice going on with it. The only thing you might do another take on in the future. I think it sounds really good compared to the last one, but you talk so softly into this microphone that you actually drop at the end of every phrase. That last word drops so low it virtually.

01;01;45;19 - 01;02;04;18
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Your brain kind of finishes the sentence because you know where the sentence is going. But I swear, you talk so softly. You just swallow that last word every single time. So it's like you know, he's Dave, I'm Dallas, and together we do the and it's just go so down that I'm just like oh wow. Yeah. That word is not audible at all.

01;02;04;20 - 01;02;20;28
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That sounds like but aside from that, because you have such a soft, smooth voice when you're talking into that mic, but listen to it this week when the episode drops, it'll be the benighted episode, and we'll have that as the new opening. Okay. All right. That was my, no no no no no no no no.

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Remember to get my game face on spiel.